30 November, 2003


America is not a Christian nation but rather a nation of mostly Christians.

Link via Joe Grossberg


  1. *sigh* Nice sentiment, but not really any better written than the tripe he was responding to.

    Notice that he says, "So let's see what the Founders really had to say about religion and religious freedom" and then proceeds to list five quotes from the same founder -- and all from the same printed source?

  2. not quite. the five quotes are from five different letters jefferson wrote between 1789-1814, which were collected into a biography.also, carver quotes madison and franklin to support his case.

  3. Yeah, each quote came from a different letter in the same biography -- that's like saying Philemon, Romans, and Galatians are different letters Paul wrote. If there's any editorial bias in that biography -- for example, if the biographer chose to include only those letters that paint a secular humanist view of Jefferson and omit any letter that goes against that view -- then that bias taints all of the letters quoted. (Worse still if the biographer included forged letters, much as the Bible includes 1 and 2 Timothy.)

    As for the quotes from Madison and Franklin, sources were cited for neither of these; coming from an author who just a few paragraphs earlier lambasted Wittman by saying, "Funny how she doesn't cite a source." Admittedly, Carver provided enough context for the quotes that someone could probably verify them with sufficient research, but that's not the same as citing a source.For a newspaper, I guess this passes for adequate. For "Illinois' Conservative News Source," this is clearly head and shoulders above, say, Rick Biesada's letter in today's edition. In an academic setting, this wouldn't pass first-year English.